When he worked for the union, he belonged to the union. It was the teamsters union, and you know what happened to the teamster’s union. He drove a truck for Chevrolet, he drove Cevy cars. The thing was called a driveaway back in the ‘30s. They made cars and I think they took five cars to the distributor, you know now there’ll be 10 or 12 cars on the things when they carry cars, you see these big long things and there’d be the or twelve car on them. Well, this was like that only with fewer cars.

The Chevy plant was up in north St. Louis. I don’t remember now where. In the back they had the test track, they make or assemble the car and then test the cars but he just drove the truck that carried the cars to different distributors. I don’t know of any of the places hje dropped the cars off…

That was before he wored at Mtr Auburn, that was when we had already gone throught he river and the highway…

When he first got married…somewhere in St. Louis…he was living at Dix and Laverna and I don’t know what he was doing…he had to pay off $400 for a car…I guess it was the automechanics school so he could have a car, and she said he couldn’t get married until he paid off the money…

They get married and then he moved from his mother’s place to John Keller’s farm…they’re getting married at Webster groves was a day trip or overnight….there weren’t any wedding pictures, bride and groom and all that…

They were married in March and I was born in January the following year…he worked on the river, they were putting the big pilings in to change the course of the river, now I don’t know exactly the dates, he walked the railroad t5racks at night cafrrrying the lanternss and then wrote when the train went by …it was their job to make sure the lines were clear that there weren’ t

He picked it up, don’t wrie thei down between hamburg and defiance back and forth between one of the things he did I don’t know if he got paid for it or not

On the river, men stayed at our house that worked on the river …they stasyed at homes along the way as the work progressed, when they got to the en of the MO river, they did something else we had to do their laundry and fix their food…the only one I reme wasw mr rse how long that lasted I don’t know I guess unitl the job was finished and then following that I hitnk he went to work at the hywy dept I learned to write ad draw on the back of blueprints…

He was a draftsman or something they took measurements sfor elevation and used transits and all those things. He could rea dand write…he must’ve started wtiht he hsy dept about the time they got to the littler birdge between hamburg and that little place, the little femme osage and then you go out and up and eventually get to DD I hink he went to work on the Hwy dept when they woreked on that bridge…I know he worked on that bridge. Before that he was working on the river.

This is when I’m old enough to remember things …while they were working on the river a man almost drovned he fell off a barge and was pulled under it, they got him out n the other side, but was very dang.

They went to lower hamberg, I don’t rememebr now some…verynon Sutton worked in that crew on the river, when they finished at lower hamberg I think is when ddad got out of that and went to work for the hwy dept they were building 94, he worked all the way up, doing the measurements and taking the elevations up past Trelor, past Matson,…I don’t think he went all the way to…

He would stay all week there at somebody’s house and then come home on the weekends. The guys who stayed with the highway did the dsame things they people that did the river. I don’t know where Mr. R. went but I suspect he went to St. Charles and stayed with someone up there…I don’t remember much except they lived up river, he wasn’t…I’m not even sure they lived in Missouri…he would go home and come back and work…I don’t rememebr it was a long time…I was a little kid you can imagine how tall I was before I shot up and I remember doing the washing and hanging it up on the line and you had to fix..I didn’t deal with the breakfast, I think dad even fixed the…dad had to take care of the animasl, andt hat had to be done before he went to work and pack the lunches…I think we had three guys at the same time and I never even spoke to the others they stayed upstairs…I don’t know who they were…

After he left that job, and I think he left that job because they were getting further and further away, he’d be home six hours and had to turn around and go back and nom was taking care of the farm and the kids and she didn’t like it one little bit and the animals were beginning to act up,..the fenses needed fixing and there wasn’t anyone to fix them, not that dad was sgoing to stay home and fix the fenses..

Then he got the driveaway job and I don’t know how long that lasted but that was another gone all week and come home on the weekends…Twice in the same week the animals got out and boy did she eblly ache and that’s when he decided he better make some adjustments…it think that happened after…

What I was mulling about was about grandpa’s dying…I thinkw hen this started happened and he was going to have to come back it was prior to…you know grandpa fell and he had not been ill, he got brain fever and died within a week. It wouldn’t have killed him if we had penicillin..

She was upset so as soon as he died so going to St. Louis wasn’t a big thing. They knew something was going to be done, grandpa was 69 or whatever and couldn’t do anything, back in those days he was an old man, now we don’t think they’re old. But back to whatever…]

So anyway, he got the job at Auburn Market and gave up the driving, why I’m not sure, except I have a feeling he was doing overnights with that, like going far enough away he’d have to stay overnight and that was out of the question anymore…and he went to work at the market and did indoor stuff, except he worked at the dairy, he asn’t driving a truck at the dairy but doin gindoor work at the dairy, tking the milk off the trucks and pouring it into the vats.

Mount Auburn Market was in wellston it was a grocery store…he was a clerk of whatever,

We moved in to the Gratiot street adress from out there. We had lived in an apartment in North St. Louis, on Elliot, North Elliot…and he was walking to Wellston every day about two or three blocks from Desses daughter viola and her husband and two children…that was just summer the firs place we moved into town…viola ofund it for them and then he garrange the job at Mount Abrun and couldn’t get anypal e close and we had to get in there now, and they had outdoor plumbing and all the rest of that good stuff…we were used to that, not a big problem.

Then we went to the house in Wellston, two houses from the other, we lived in Mr. Smith’s house, which was a three room cottage and he, Mr. Smith lived in the basement. Mr. Smith was a telegrapher, the guy that takes the messages on the railroad, he could do that okay, he was very good at it, he got cancer of the throat and had a tracheotomy and a speaking tube , he was an old man….

He lived in the basement because he had to live somewhere eand he needed money…we staye dthere…he was driving the bread truck then, for White bakery which was just across the street from the house we finally went to down in the city. But that was after he left mount auburn. I don’t know how long he worked there, four years maybe, maybe we were n’t there that long, fifth grade, sixth grade, part of seventh grade, we were there about three years. I left the seventh grade and went to the end of the 8th grade in st . louis because they said, oh my goodness you know more than everyone here, so you can graduate in January .ok fine…I didn’t care…

After Mt auburn he got the job at the bakery and then he looked for a house in the area of the bakery and that’s when we moved down to Gratiot…when we were in Wellston we lived at Smith’s house but I don’t know why, mom probably decided she’d rather have a house of her own instead of having the landlord in the basement , so we moved two houses up closer toward the city into another house…some of the pictures of the fam. The woolseys on the big tree stump a whole bunch of kids, that wasssssss in an empty lot that was next to the house we lived in…so we moved then and styaed six, eight months, and then moved into twon…

Smith’s house…empty lot to the west…then moved two houses to the east…

And then moved to Gratiot…and then that house staye din the fam for year, when they moved away. And . Lived there…I’m not sure, but I suspect w. and k. moved her bro and his wife that he got rid of after a while, there….

They didn’t buy it…it was the downstairs of a two story house with another two story house in the back of it. The lot was a logn lot and there were two brick houses on the lot, and you know I tell you about those people from Ukraine, that fam. Lived on the bottom of that back house. I know who lived upstairs in our house, a woman with tuberculosis…they raised two teenaged boy, I was gone before…and she got diagnosed with tub and went off to a sanitarium…The boys were k.’s friends, and stuff like that….

How old were the houses? It wasn’t the oldest part of town, or the richest part of town. We didn’t think it was clums, because there were slums and we knew it was better than that…

This is over a fifteen year period, when he went down there he was probably making 15 a week that’s what he was making at mt auburn, when I was sixteen it was the war, Ev. Got a job , and worked as a secy, because she had taken typing and she worked aboaut two months before she got married at sixteen…

My mother and her would go in the backyard and smoke cigarettes, my mother worked at the time but my jmother didn’t work with her…

The woman who had tb smoked constantly, she didn’t work at the factory, why didn’t she work at the favorty? The guy who was the manage lived in the nirhgborship up the street and the war was on and he would just ask around and he told the little grocery store wehre every body shopped that he needed some women and they’d just go over there…that’s how he recruited…mom didn’t work very long, she didn’t like work…but about that ytime grandma got sick…she didn’t like the concept of working…

When I was 21 years old I moved out…my sister was already married and divorce…he was in the service and we went to New Jersey, for Dix to pick her up before th baby was born and then after that they went to barksDale LA…he was stationed down there and then after they had another kid and that was just way too mucha nd she couldn’t be away from her mother and all that and after she made him leave the service and come and live in the housing porject in St. Louis, and they had a third kid and they couldn’t make a living and he said he was going to go back in and she said I’m not going, and they got a divorce…she lived with her mother and they raised the kids until she married Cork…they lived in the house on Gratiot but not too long…they moved out to the country…

When she died two of them were adults the third was almost an adult and B. was like twelve…What’s his name was already married had two kids was in the service and out of the service…

When Mom died, he came home , she stopped breathing just before he got to the hospial the red cross had arranged for him to be there, he came from Vietnam, he watched his friends get shot, he was working on airplanes and they were shooting his buddies who were also working on airplanes…they brought him home for her, but they sent him back…by the time his mother died he was already out…

His mother died the next year in July…

We drove up to Ford Dix and drove her back so she could have the baby and the head of ob at Barnes delivered the baby and good think eh did because the kid was breach and it was a very difficult brth and if she’d done it in an army hos up there chances are one of them wouldn’t have made it…

I went with them but I wasn’t living at home when that happened, but I went with my parents to pick her up to help pay for the trip and read the maps and other stuff…

Her husband was on…they were living together in ana partment one of those…price gouging…they the government put price controls on specifically because around military bases the people were raising prices five or ten times what they were before this happened, it was just ubeleivable so they rolled the prices back to where they were prior to the building of all this stuff..this ws all ove rthe country…the rents were just astronomical, they would be by our terms today, and anyway they had the apratment and all that, and he was on duty, but he had left the house in the morning, he knew we were going to pick her up, we didn’t stay, we left there and went to new york and visited someone I knew, somebody…nurse and her husband and two babies, twins, and anyway…she weas a twin he was a twin and guess what, they had twins…

I didn’t see him but they were not estranged, he didn’t know he was going to be divorced in a few years…he knew she wasn’t happy. ….we didn’t deliver her back to Ford Dix, I don’t they were at Abarksdale, and I know the folks went because I know they were down there more than once…

I know he was stationed down there…she was sixteen when they got married, but he was old enough to be in service, but I don’t know eighteen nineteen, I went to school with his sister, and I was four years older than she (e) was, so he was probably five years older…maybe he was a year youngear…yes,…he was younger…he was probably eighteen…

They had showers for her, the family was really happy about it and all that kind of studfff…id idn’t know until they were ready to get married that I knew his isster, somebody said her name and I said, “oh , I know her, I went to school with her, and the kid said, “yeh you did and I said, What the hell…I didn’t know…

Mom was really happy about her getting married…

I called them evry week, my mom wouldn’t talk to me for a yaer…it was exactly ayear, if she answered she would hand the phone to someone else…at the end of the year I called and she started talking just like we had just talked yesterday and I went right on and talked like whatever…

She was mad, hell…

I said when I am twenty one years old, I’d been to college, I was leaving, we weren’t emancipated at 18. I had earned all tehmoney I spent at college I paid rent, cleaned the house, went to the grovery store and either stop on my way home or take out a list…I did not cook, but I did the wash and the ironing, scrubbed the floor with the wash water, and I made it quite abundantly clear that when I as 21 I was leaving…and when I got to be 21 I left a girl I knew at school, at the university , she graduated, got an apartnet I was working at the hospital we went to the movies together and she wanted to get a place and wanted to get out of the dorm…I siad I don’t have time to look for a place, I’m not talking about my father I’m talking about me so I said, I don’t have time, the room was very small had a little palce to cook, she cooked, the bathroom was down the hall and she said she found this place and she thought we could afford it, she elft school and moved into a dr.’s house wehre she was the nanny and I would go tot ht eplace and help her do the dishes, and bathe the kids and put them to bed, after she’d been there a few months, she told the good doctors she appreciated what they had done, very prominent doctor, and told his wife, and we would put the babies to bed, sm. As whips and they’d talk and we’d read them stories and put them to bed and then I’d stay with her until he parents came home…

Joan Emerson Norment, part of the Emerson bunch, Ralph Waldo…on the mother’s side…I met her at college, in a class, she lived on campus because she came from Maryland…

Found this place because we all knew when the time was up it was going to be the middle of winter, so when my birthday came along I said, “I’m leaving” a couple of days past my birthday, close to my birthday and I left, and of course, it left everything just there and Ev. Wasn’t (married yet)…home yet, she was still in Louisiana…

They didn’t live at the house with mom until much later…she stayed at our house to have the baby, it couldn’t have been very long…she didn’t go back to Fort Dix he was moved to another camp, so I think they took her to the other base…they were in St. Louis when she had the second…they were all born in St. Louis…she…his time was up and he could get out of the service, he could have reenlisted and she insisted and she wouldn’t any part of this anymore so they came to St. Louis and lived at Pruit Igoe…D. must have been the one that had pneumonia when he was first born and I went to the hospital and looked at him through the window he was in for a long time, They lived at Pruit Igoe for four years or so, he wanted to go back into the service, he liked the service, and he went back in and stayed there you know…

When I did that Evelyn was still there…I talked to Ev. And I talked to my father but not to my mother for a year…

Moved into a little apartment on Washington Westerminster and another rone, they were just right…

I don’t know which one it was…out there close to Clayton, west end…

And I went to work at the hospital, at Barnes Hosptial where I had been working…I always worked on the first floor…she got chicken pox, my roommate and I had to put her in the hospital, they did, put her in isolation, and she was a celebrity, nbody had seen chickenpox, certainly not as a professional person and so she w as a teaching tool, they brought every intern, every senior student, was brought through to see her…she loved it…they kept saying “You’re going to get it, you’re going to get it”…so every day they’d look at me to see if I had broken out, you see we slept in the same bed and nobody thoughr anything of it, and I woke up and there she is with spots on her and I said, Oh migod, and she stayed in isolation until she was over it 21 days to have everybody come to see if I had broken out every day…what does it look like when it first starts…but she got over it and didn’t have nay scars….

She was a little taller than I by not much and fat…she was a blonde…she decided she didn’t like the apartment and she was going to find another place…that’s fine with me as long as we could pay for it, she was about to graduate so she came up with…where she met these people I don’t know…she met these two girls, oh, I know where we met those people…she found a place upstairs in the building and the girls next door were upstairs too, and there was a guy who had a room by himself and stuff like that…she was into everything, she as into journalism and knew everything that was going on, so we went up there, rented this place…now we’re on just off Vanderventer within walking distance of…I had moved up to Washington to the Professional Building up there on Washington, the medical building whatever it was called, so I don’t know anybody I don’t see anybody, I clean whatever, and the girls across the hall and she were talking and then she talks to the landlord who was a KY colonel, just another old man, and she found out that a bigger apartment on the first floor was going to come available so she works out a deal with the other girl that they’ll share the place downstairs, they can have the bedroom and then we’d sleep on the pull down…if they didn’t fix me food I wouldn’t eat…Thursday was cleaning day I scrubbed, those girls were off working in offices somewhere so we moved down tot here and lived there a fairly long while…